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[project] Peugeot 205 Twin Turbo

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Pete were abouts did you get your engine mounts from and how much?? ive looked on the BBM website but i cant see the solid ones??

 

Thanks

 

james

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welshpug
Pete were abouts did you get your engine mounts from and how much?? ive looked on the BBM website but i cant see the solid ones??

 

Thanks

 

james

 

engine-kit.jpg

 

http://bakerbm.com/205.php?data=engkitn205

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wracing

those are the ones i found B) i was hoping for some solid ones!

 

 

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james

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welshpug

they are Solid, solid rubber!

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hcmini1989
those are the ones i found B) i was hoping for some solid ones!

 

 

Thanks

 

james

i wouldnt put solid ones on mate shake your fillings out .i had some on my old mini and i couldnt see where i was going as my glasses used to viberate that much everything was a blur .

 

project is coming along nicely mate .i have to agree with pete when im looking at your project i realise im know f*** all

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wracing

B) Sorry mate when i say solid i mean solid as in steel. I should have explained myself better. i know constella do a solid lower mount i just want the rest.

 

I know the vibrations going to be s*it i'm just not to confident in the rubber holding her in the engine bay. B)

 

Thanks

 

james

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welshpug

I know quite a few of the proper group A mounts from Peugeot sport for later cars were a large alloy lump with a small wishbone bush like insert in the middle, some of the gearbox and top right engine mountings were made very similarly.

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pugpete1108
Pete were abouts did you get your engine mounts from and how much?? ive looked on the BBM website but i cant see the solid ones??

 

Thanks

 

james

 

 

 

these would be the ones i have James, they will be ok for me but i doubt they will hold up for yours ?

 

i have seen solid ally ones (lower) somewhere but cant remember where, not sure if you can get the upper ones tho? god that would be a sh*t ride with all solid mounts surely?

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wracing

I know :huh: these issues dont really come to mind when you start such a project. Im almost tempted to fab my own I would be using the engine a strut brace ;)

 

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James

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pugpete1108
I know :huh: these issues dont really come to mind when you start such a project. Im almost tempted to fab my own I would be using the engine a strut brace ;)

 

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James

 

surely you will need to strengthen the shell somwhat for this? as it'll rip it apart on acceleration.

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wracing

The cage comes through onto the front struts and then im triangulating from there. It is catch 22 thought the more strength i add the harder the engine is to remove!! :huh:

 

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James

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welshpug

Can't remember who's car this is/was, but I think its a Peugeot sport shell.

 

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wracing

I like that setup, ill have to see if i can replicate something similar!!

 

Thanks

 

James

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DrSarty
I like that setup, ill have to see if i can replicate something similar!!

 

YOU certainly can James. Of that I have no doubt.

 

Only thing I don't get is your comment about Megasquirt. Yes it's not viewed favourably, but purely based on what typically happens. The equipment is fine (providing it's built properly) but I can't quite see why you say an Emerald, or DTA couldn't provide all of the same features if not more.

 

The only way I could possibly believe this is if you customise your own MS board, and in that case it's a custom ECU.

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You hit the nail on the hear customized code and hardware. I think the Bosch motorsport ecus have the flexibility that i need but have you seen the price!!! :huh:

 

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James

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welshpug

yeah, Beru and Magnetti Marelli I have seen on WRC cars, they could do all you wanted, and a a lot more quite likely, but they'll cost an immense amount of money.

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wracing

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Just a little image trying to explain the setup. please excuse the crudeness, but it think it shows everything. the car has a small compressor supplying the valves.

 

stage 1:

 

38mm waste gate open, 50mm wastegate closed, all exhaust passing through the the small turbo.

 

stage 2:

 

38mm waste gate closed, 50mm wastegate modulating some exaust been bypassed.

 

stage 3:

 

38mm wastegate closed, 50mm wastegate open, all exaust bypassed into the large turbo, quick spool valve closed.

 

stage 4:

 

38mm wastegate closed, 50mm wastegate open, all exaust bypassed into the large turbo, quick spool valve open. (we may not use this stage)

 

stage 5:

 

38mm waste gate open.

 

The reason dta, emerald..... are not suitable is because on top of the normal fuelling and ignition i need 3 pwm outputs with pid control loops on each.

 

Thanks

 

james

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All Praise The GTI

impressive stuff but i stil have no idea what your on about lol

stew (bbm)s mounts are allot harder then you might think but for such a build as yours mate id fabricate your own. ones in welshpugs pics looks real smart :)

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qwerty
everytime i read topics like this i suddenly feel rather thick :)

 

 

pleased am not the only one then B)

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More progress this morning, some throttle bodies have been delivered courtesy of a forum member. Very well prepared a small amount of porting needed and ive got to install the secondary fuel rail.

 

260cc/mins on the inner fuel rail @3bar

400cc/mins on the outer fuel rail @3bar

 

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Simon has finished the dash, unfortunately when I cut the holes i made them slightly to small and needed to be taken out with a die grinder! :D

 

Still need to fully weld and finish with a grinder! :ph34r:

 

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Thanks

 

James

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DrSarty

Just a shame to see a bodge with the silicon joiners. Not up to your usual standard.

 

I know they came that way, but I'm sure someone of your fabrication skills can do better.

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wracing

In my defence I've got the alloy flanges, they are currently been laser cut, hopefully they should be ready soon, i just need to mock the manifold up to stay on deadline! due to the fact that the plenum entrance is on the opposite side to standard I couldn't really justify fabricating anything for a temporary solution. ;)

 

I've been working on the head, and a little bit more on the intake manifold, while simon has been degreasing and cleaning the block. Really I wanted a black block but we have gone with red to make life easy as far as oil leaks are concerned :lol:

 

I have dead headed the fuel rail on the secondary injectors to allow us to run an after market regulator.

 

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Thanks

 

James

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Massive amounts of work today, engine built and just need final torquing up once the fixings have settled. :) Some pictures to explain all.

 

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Some forged rods hiding in there somewhere!

 

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Showing the head ready for building up.

 

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Forged pistons, hopefully should take the strain ;)

 

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Finished bottom end all oiled and ready for running ;)

 

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You gotta love how clean and shiny!! :D

 

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Finishing the cams just needing to be oiled.

 

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:D :D :D :D :D

 

Thanks

 

James

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qwerty

I so cant wait to see this running

 

really interested in how its going to perform :)

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wracing

I forgot to mention that we will be running on std cams in the run in process, then swapping over to new shiny ones :huh:

 

Thanks

 

James

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