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#41
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...and Saveit seems to be talking about 4 different engines and confusing the bejesus out of people. That's been commented on so I merely expressed my feelings which I'm entitled to do also.

No no - only 2 different engines, 8v or 16v 1600cc :blush: Sorry if i am confusing you, but i am only talking about 2 different engines :ph34r:

None of the proposed solutions seem to reach 2.4 liters? I have a 2.4L iron block mi16, and Peugeot Sport Engineering in Denmark have just come up with a new 2.5L stroker kit for peugeots. So should be possible to reach more than 2237 cc or something like that?

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As far as the capacity goes, You can get 98mm crank from Denmark and bore certain iron block to say 89mm, this way You get 2438cc, with 88mm bore You get 2384cc.

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What 98mm crank and how much?

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:ph34r:

Contact Kristian or VP, they'll know more.

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just a note to bare in mine

this 98mm crank would result in quite extensive work inside the block for it to fit, even the 96mm 406 2.2td crank results in block work as the stroke is so much longer than standard, the bottom of the bores need machining to fit

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The cranks with longest stroke is 100mm that came from Denmark I think (if they havent made something even longer by now).

So this crank and a 89mm bore block will give 2489cc.. so almost 2.5 litres.

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That will be a very long stroked and sluggish engine I guess..

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That will be a very long stroked and sluggish engine I guess..


Don't think so really.

My 2.3 litre has 94.5mm stroke so it's not that far away, and it's much more rev happy anyway than a 2.0 Mi16 with 86mm stroke.

Engines don't need to get sluggish by the longer stroke, only thing that might be a problem is that rods get thrown out of the block if you rev it too high :)

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That will be a very long stroked and sluggish engine I guess..


Not at all. Actually i think its opposite. I have a 2.4L made here in Denmark by the company that does these long-stroke cranks. I guess mine would be the 98mm crank. And i can tell you, its a revy beast. When you hit the throttle and it reached 3000rpm all hell breaks loose, its almost uncontrolable. It flies through the rev range, its like you almost have to keep your eyes on the dashboard in order to shift gear before it hits the limiter. Actually i think the engine is too powerful for a 205. I would like a longer gearing for it but i am not that in to gearboxes and replacing different parts and so on, so ill just have to go with the 1.9 gearbox as it is. But the car is not at all sluggish.

Edited by Saveit, 04 June 2009 - 05:42 AM.


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It should be said that the cranks dosn't come from Denmark, they are from England.
they are special made from a company by the name of fardon, they manufacture both the 98 mm and the 100 mm crank.

The 96 mm peugeot crank is from the peugeot 406 2,2 liter engine, engine code EW12j4.

If you use the 96 mm crank and pistons from a BMW M3 you'll end up with a 2251 cm3 and this is more than half the cost of using a Fardon crank.

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That would be Farndon.

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If you use the 96 mm crank and pistons from a BMW M3 you'll end up with a 2251 cm3 and this is more than half the cost of using a Fardon crank.


:)

I like that, the BMW boys are nicking XU9J4 and XU10J4/RS rods and bearings for their engines ('cause the bearings are s*it), and the Peugeot lads are nicking their cranks and pistons in return :lol:

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S14 crank fits straight in? Or am I missing something? How long are the rods?

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i have a 2.1 12v TD engine from a 406, (XUD11?)
Would that crank be useable in a bigger bore petrol engine?

I don't have time for an extensive search, just passing through for old times sake.

Hi folk that know me! :D

Kev's still messing around I see :)

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Yes.

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To elaborate on Sandy's "yes", it's what I have in my 2.2 engine.

92mm stroke with 87mm bore = 2187cc. You can go to 88mm (+?) on an iron block with care.

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What pistons did you use Doc?
Will it fit the alloy XU9 block from the 1.9 8v or just the iron blocked stuff?
Also is it a runner and how does it go?

Thanks to both of you :(

Edited by phatgti, 30 September 2009 - 08:19 AM.


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have a look at "2.2L 16v Details in here:" in the Dr's signature :( iron block + custom pistons, goes like stink...

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Also is it a runner and how does it go?


It goes broooooooooooooom, pop, pop, pop, BANG, broooooooooooooom, pop, pop, pop, BANG,
:( B)

I'll get around to sending Rich the vids I took of it one day. They're a bit crap though and don't do it justice.

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:( where have you been GLP?