Doof 11 Posted October 16, 2008 Ok, why don't the following fit? Xu10J4 sump, XU10J4 block...it seems to be fouling on the think metal plate attached to the sump, but why, its a damn Xu10 sump! Its about 2 inches too high!! Theres no spacers on iron blocks right... one sump: one bottom end: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutija 1 1 Cars Posted October 16, 2008 If I see it right you have an extended oil pick up? So without spacer oil pickup is hitting the trap door? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doof 11 Posted October 16, 2008 Yes, thats not the problem in this case though. The thin metal piece bolted to the oil pump is hitting the sump...and actually i've found the cause. The aluminum sump is actually not as deep as the steel sump!! How can these aluminum sumps fit on any Xu10j4 engine when they're not as deep, they must be lacking the metal plate? Is it true also that i need an Xu9 sump spacer on the steel block because of the oil pump extension? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gibbo GTI 0 Posted October 17, 2008 Yes, thats not the problem in this case though. The thin metal piece bolted to the oil pump is hitting the sump...and actually i've found the cause. The aluminum sump is actually not as deep as the steel sump!! How can these aluminum sumps fit on any Xu10j4 engine when they're not as deep, they must be lacking the metal plate? Is it true also that i need an Xu9 sump spacer on the steel block because of the oil pump extension? I believe the engines fitted with aircon pumps had a deeper sump than none aircon cars. The dipsticks are different lengths accordingly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baz 421 Posted October 17, 2008 Is it true also that i need an Xu9 sump spacer on the steel block because of the oil pump extension? Yes!! that's the idea, you lengthen the pickup, aswel as having the taller sump AND the spacer plate, the lower pick up, stronger spring, 26t sprocket and more oil in the sump all doing their bit to help. Read back over Peter's website! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrSarty 90 1 Cars Posted October 17, 2008 I thought we talked about this Doof. Why are you so reluctant to put the sump spacer in anyway? Bang it in there and get the benefits my lad. Looks like you haven't got a choice now anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy 189 Posted October 17, 2008 That alloy sump looks like the XU7 rather than XU10, unless I'm suffering severe brain fade? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,622 Posted October 17, 2008 could be off an early XU10, they don't all have the wings that the R/RS lumps have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spiky 37 Posted October 17, 2008 that's diffenent to a gti6 sump Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doof 11 Posted December 12, 2008 Ok, sorry to bring up this old post but unless I'm a retard...no sumps at all fit my XU10J4...i've tried the one pictured above from an Xu10J4, i've tried a GTi-6 sump and still no joy! Can anyone spot anything wrong with the oil pump assembly pictured above? Basically it feels and looks like it just cannot fit with that bit of sheet metal shielding the pickup! Now, i'm almost certain I have an Xu10j4 sump, standard apart from the pickup extension, but that shouldn't matter as i have a spacer from a GTi... I've tried all orientations, sliding it on from angles and all sorts and it simply will not fit with that damned metal guard thing! Any help greatly appreciated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hexhamstu 9 Posted December 12, 2008 what sump came off the thing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doof 11 Posted December 12, 2008 Some steel sump that i can't bloody find any more! Does anyone know if you can actually get different depth sumps? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miles 331 1 Cars Posted December 12, 2008 You can get different size pump baffles, Does it fit with the baffle on? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doof 11 Posted December 12, 2008 Ahhhhhhhhhh Miles you genious!! Different size pump baffles!! Obviously i'm using a baffle for a steel sump and i'm trying to stick an ally sump on it!!!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philfingers 5 Posted December 13, 2008 try this, it's for a GTi6 sump on an Mi block using a 8v sump stiffner/spacer. I made this out of alloy sheet, cut with tin snips. Its a very snug fit with probably less than 1mm all the way around fitted Not sure how much the sump is hovering above the face of the block when you offer it up but you could try just slackening the baffle plate bolts off slightly an see if you can move it slightly, Phil Mi16_Oil_pump_baffle.PDF Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
