205 1.1 With A Twist 106 Gti Engine

[205johnnyxsi 0]

Hello i am just after a bit of advice

 

I just recently brought a 205 1.1 with a 106 gti engine strip proper sleeper looking

 

I want to tune the engine a bit but to be safely

 

I been told by a mate who has a gti running over 170bhp on tbs and few other parts i dont want to go to that expense

 

but he said he nose a place that will chip the ecu and gain me 20 bhp its called a brabus chip and that for 350 pound

 

also been told running 50 to 75 shot of noz is safe but i want everyday performance

 

im running a straight though standard exhaust system for the look so dont want exhaust mods and running a pipercross indo kit

 

what do you recondmend

 

thanks johnny

[boombang 2]

No chip alone will give you 20bhp I'm afraid, just doesn't work like that.

 

Nitrous isn't everyones cup of tea (mine included), I'd rather tune an engine permanently rather than a quick blast of power.

 

 

IIRC QEP did a cam and ECU setup that gave decent power as a plug and playish solution (coupled with exhaust manifold change - going by what I remember from my time a while back on the 106 rallye register).

 

It won't be cheap though.

[danpug 1]

A friend was running catcams 708's in his 106 gti and seemed to make a decent difference. Would be better with a remap but then the price starts to go up drastically. Anything you do on top of what you have done already is going to cost you a fair bit of cash really.

[dirtdog 4]

Aren't they TU engines?

 

I know it's not really performance but stick another fan in if it's not already got the double.

 

Don't bother looking on the 106 gti forum (or have you already and thats why your asking here?) They'll tell you to fit a (resistor) "chip" , 5" slash cut exhaust and a ram air filter which will give you a gazillion BHP. Although whenever I'm feeling down..a brief visit there and I'm soon smiling again

[jplautomotive 0]

"Don't bother looking on the 106 gti forum (or have you already and thats why your asking here?) They'll tell you to fit a (resistor) "chip" , 5" slash cut exhaust and a ram air filter which will give you a gazillion BHP. Although whenever I'm feeling down..a brief visit there and I'm soon smiling again"

 

 

now that is funny , yeah its a tu5j4 engine

[weejimmy 1]

206 1.6 16v head.

bigger valves etc and not too expensive.

 

before you start playing with the gti head

[Sandy 189]

There is so much claim and counter claim about how to get power from this engine is comical. The first thing you need to know is virtually every one makes more than the quoted 120bhp for a start and the best "standard" engine I've seen, with an induction kit, 4-2-1 supersprint and pugsport exhaust; no internal mods or ECU changes, gave 118bhp AT THE WHEELS at SRD's calibrated rollers and 151bhp flywheel at Powerstation. I've seen others make much less too, so they definitely vary. When you've seen a few of the heads, the variation in core shift on the ports goes some way to explaining why. A good standard head will be near perfect, one of the not so good standard ones will have nasty steps on the inserts. I'm not really a fan of cams and remap, it's a bit dull IMO, but suits some people until they get bored with it. I suggest first stage to be a good quality induction kit, works better than just a bolt on filter and the Supersprint manifold is my preferred, but the Raceland runs it close and is much cheaper. A lightened flywheel is noticeable too.

Second stage for my money is straight to TBs and aftermarket ECU, with the right inlet design I've seen from 126-131bhp at the wheels on otherwise standard engines, the latter having the Supersprint and more importantly it really brings the engine to life, in terms of responsiveness and noise; it's a whole different experience to cam swaps.

Beyond that is maybe adding a mild set of hydraulic cams, then you have to go to forged pistons and hence rebuild etc,so it gets much more costly.

Edited January 3, 2009 by Sandy

[projectpug 0]

Common conversion is a C2 VTS head with catcams 708's and breathing mods(raceland 4-2-1,BMC/Raceland induction with green filter) will see 160hp on standard induction with about a 7800 red line.A company called chip wizards do the map or you can get a number of plug and play stand alone ecus now for the 1 plug ecu. If you have a 3 plug ecu then you will need a custom harness making for standalone.